Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
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Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
Thanks for the suggestions. I like the idea of mounting it up front on the pilot's side for the reasons you shared.
Any advice on the rear seat? Is there a trick that allows you to slide it in/out without gouging wall panels or windows in the process, or is it destined to be a 2 person (or more) job involving blood, sweat, and tears every time?
-Kennet
Any advice on the rear seat? Is there a trick that allows you to slide it in/out without gouging wall panels or windows in the process, or is it destined to be a 2 person (or more) job involving blood, sweat, and tears every time?
-Kennet
1953 C170B - N170RP S/N 25865
Re: ELT location?
Next time you have it out...replace those bolts that hinge the rear seat-back with clevis-pins so you can remove the back first. (Many times just removing the back allows the access desired without having to remove the seat-bottom, but either way, with the back removed, the seat bottom is a much-simpler job because it allows the botton to be rotated lengthwise/otherwise-manipulated to be removed.
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Re: ELT location?
It is, thanks George .....just got my 45 bucks worth againrydfly wrote:That's so brilliantly simple! Thanks a lot!
W.
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Re: ELT location?
That's me! Brilliantly simple!W.J.Langholz wrote:It is, thanks George .....just got my 45 bucks worth againrydfly wrote:That's so brilliantly simple! Thanks a lot!
W.
Don't forget that if you don't use "quick-release-pins" ... you must remember to orient
them correctly or you'll still not be able to remove them and get the seat-back out first.
(You need to be able to pull the pin INWARD to make this worthwhile.)
My seat-back, ...uhmmm..."backing".... is "Velcroe'd"....and therefore capable of being pulled away to
reveal the pin. Here's a pic:
Here's the type sold by Aircraft Spruce:
Here's their link: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/t ... ckPins.php
(But I got mine elsewhere.)
Otherwise, genuine "clevis" pins will work as long as they are inserted from inboard-to-outboard.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
Thanks for the photo, George! That's looking at the rear of the seat-back, through your baggage-compartment door, right?
I have custom upholstery on mine, and I've been trying to figure out how to do this. I need to look at it again in light of what you've shown us.
Thanks again!
John
I have custom upholstery on mine, and I've been trying to figure out how to do this. I need to look at it again in light of what you've shown us.
Thanks again!
John
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Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
I use an AN392 clevis pin and a lockpin. The corner of my rear seat upholstery stitching is slit enough for me to get a few fingers inside in order to place the pin through the seat frame. Not as large as George's opening and really needing nothing for it to disappear.
When actually putting the back of the seat in place all that is needed is a single finger in the slit to push the clevis pin through the bottom seat frame. Then using my other hand to slip the lockpn through the hole in the clevis pin which can be seen between the seat and the side cabin wall. Much easier seen and done than described. Georges' pin would work as well but perhaps not as positively locked in place.
When actually putting the back of the seat in place all that is needed is a single finger in the slit to push the clevis pin through the bottom seat frame. Then using my other hand to slip the lockpn through the hole in the clevis pin which can be seen between the seat and the side cabin wall. Much easier seen and done than described. Georges' pin would work as well but perhaps not as positively locked in place.
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Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
That's correct, John. My seat-back uphostery is only VELCRO-ed onto the tubing in the lower-rear corners, so it's an easy matter to peel the backing up at the corner to access the pins.jrenwick wrote:Thanks for the photo, George! That's looking at the rear of the seat-back, through your baggage-compartment door, right?
I have custom upholstery on mine, and I've been trying to figure out how to do this. I need to look at it again in light of what you've shown us.
Thanks again!
John
The small, spring-loaded "ball" holds it in place just fine with no sign of looseness, but relies upon the hole being the correct size and not "wallowed" out. Remember that the seat back is "captive" between the sidewalls and bottom-brackets and does not need a secure fastener to keep it in position. It merely needs a pivot-point which almost any pin, clevis, or bolt will serve. In fact, a common AN-bolt without a nut...using only a cotter thru the drilled hole in the threads... is all that's required.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
If one prefers not to purchase the clevis pins from one of the usual aircraft suppliers one can purchase them from their local aircraft (Tractor Supply )dealer
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Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
What diameter are the pins you are using? My rear seat isn't currently available for measurements
Richard
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
Re: Rear seat removal-TIP (split from ELT location topic)
I is a 1/4" pin and you want about 1-1/4" long.
Karl
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL