Cabin Insulation Material

How to keep the Cessna 170 flying and airworthy.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Post Reply
User avatar
okflyer
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Cabin Insulation Material

Post by okflyer »

I have been wondering what people are using these days for insulation behind the sidepanels and above the headliner. Last time I used hot water tank insulation wrap that worked quite well but its worn out and ready for something new.
User avatar
GAHorn
Posts: 21022
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by GAHorn »

A search for "soundproofing" will give good results.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
User avatar
okflyer
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by okflyer »

Thanks. Looks like Super Soundproofing is the way to go.
cmsusllc
Posts: 161
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:43 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by cmsusllc »

Sound - Ex is another good product. I used it and was very satisfied.
Scott
bagarre
Posts: 2615
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:35 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by bagarre »

I found it a lot cheaper and easier to just buy a better headset.
User avatar
GAHorn
Posts: 21022
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by GAHorn »

bagarre wrote:I found it a lot cheaper and easier to just buy a better headset.
There is a lot of truth in that.
After installing good door seals, there isn't much one can do about noise in these things other than
a good headset.
These airplanes are noisy, even with the best soundproofing materials.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
User avatar
okflyer
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by okflyer »

Its actually not so much the soundproofing as the insulation for cold weather flying I'm looking for. The water tank silver wrap material was working pretty good but was disintegrating after 15 years or so.
bagarre
Posts: 2615
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:35 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by bagarre »

This was my answer to cold weather flying
http://www.legendaryusa.com/Schott-B-3- ... p/257s.htm
I didnt buy it last year as the winter wasnt that cold for us.
:lol:

For keeping the plane warm, I've found keeping the draft out to be the most effective.
This can be non-trivial when it comes to door seals.
Don't forget the whole tailcone. Not just behind the access panel but the section behind the headliner too.
And the wing roots.
and the landing gear
and the windscreen
and the inspection plates..

wow, that jacket is starting to look cheap :roll:
User avatar
blueldr
Posts: 4442
Joined: Thu May 02, 2002 3:16 am

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by blueldr »

One of the fellows up at my airport flys a big Cessna twin for a ranching company and they just had it all reinsulated with some kind of black colored foam that is approved for the job. The pilot said it was like a new airplane. He said that temperature and sound were both greately improved.
BL
marathonrunner
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:49 am

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by marathonrunner »

Good point blueldr...It needs to be approved. Many products are not and may not be good in a fire and may in fact incapacitate. I used Mooney sound proofing back in the late 80's for mine and it is still holding. Probably cannot get that kind of adhesive anymore.
It's not done till it's overdone
User avatar
Blue4
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:58 am

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by Blue4 »

Selkirk Aviation in Idaho sells pre-cut soundproofing kits as well as their fiberglass interior pieces. I haven't tried one (yet).
-Scott
User avatar
okflyer
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by okflyer »

I see the Sound-Ex kits for the C-170 are $745 from the manufacturer and jumps to over $1000 for the same thing from Aircraft Spruce. I can sew several warm coats together.
marathonrunner
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:49 am

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by marathonrunner »

I have put two Selkirk interior kits in Cessna 180's. They take quite a bit of trimming and fitting. Having air powered cutting and trimming tools is not a must but sure make the job go faster.
It's not done till it's overdone
User avatar
lowNslow
Posts: 1530
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 4:20 pm

Re: Cabin Insulation Material

Post by lowNslow »

After putting in expensive sound proofing and thicker glass all the way around and all new seals I found little difference in the noise level. As mentioned above, get better headsets. The one thing I did notice was much improved cabin heating, it required less opening of the heater valve and the heating was very even throughout the cabin.
Karl
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
Post Reply