Headliner Installation

[skylking]

Can anyone point me to a good reference source for installing a headliner (wool) in my 170A? I did it years ago but have forgotten the steps I took. I know it can be frustrating if not done properly. Also, on a related note, does anyone have a proven method for keeping mice out of the airplane? I've tried every trap, device, repellant and home remedy that I can come up with and still can't get rid of the little devils. Hence my question about the headliner. Thanks in advance for any advice.

[counsellj]

lock the wife's cat in your cockpit. I have three that I can send you free of charge.

[canav8]

How about a snake? Would provide hours of entertainment also.

[skylking]

The wife left and took the cat about 10 years ago. Tried the snake but I think I'd perfer the mice. Someone told me today that the fabric softner sheets you put in the dryer works. Anyone tried that?

[azmuth1]

I use Irish Spring soap in my camper during winter storage...works great. Just peal it off the bar with knife into a short 1/2 pint container. Then, set it by where you think they might be entering. Worth a try.

[Kurt Aichele]

Lorraine Morris at C77 made a video on headliner installation. She is associated with the 120/140 Association. I'm still looking for my members book for the 120/140 Assn. to find her contact info. In the meantime, check thier website at www.cessna120-140.org
Hope this helps.

[skylking]

Thanks guys I will follow both these suggestions..........still taking the cats and the snakes under advisement....I appreciate the help.

[Paul-WI]

I also am replacing my headliner - not due to mice though, just age. If you find that info on how to, that would be great to have posted on our site.

Paul

[bsdunek]

Many years ago, (maybe 40) dad made a 'mouse barrier'. It's just galvanized steel sheet about seven inches wide formed into a circle. The ends are bent to hook together. It goes around the tailwheel, because that's where they get in. Haven't had a mouse problem in the 170 since.
Fall is the worst time as they're looking for a cozy place to spend the winter, so be sure to use whatever you use then.

[Blue4]

How about old fashioned mothballs? Some old timers swear they work on mice. Keep the bugs out of your wool headliner, too.

I have a couple of surplus wool blankets that I keep in the airplane for survival gear. They've got enough camphor in them to keep everybody's airplane pest free for a century.
-Scott

[skylking]

Tried the mothballs, tied in an old sock...........the mice just used the sock as nesting material. I think these are SUPER-MICE.

[GAHorn]

Never never NEVER allow anyone to eat/drink anything but water in an airplane. Even the tiniest crumbs from sandwiches, crackers, nuts, etc.. are attractants.
Then, provide a diversion :

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

Is that fuel lube on the triggering devise of that approved rodent eliminator or unapproved common peanut butter?

[Paul-WI]

Where can I find an STC for the rodent remover. Also, does it have to be TSO'd or can I use an expermental device. I also heard that if you pre-lube the pivot mechanism with MMO, it will keep it from sticking.

Paul

[blueldr]

If memory serves, there was talk some time ago about the "danger" of welding a tie down ring to the top of the tail wheel mounting bolt, due to negating the heat treat of the bolt, or some such.
Sure looks to me like a welding job on the bolt head just behind the peanut butter. That tail wheel is just waiting to fall off in flight!