gahorn wrote:Otherwise you may be forced to use the Continental adaptor from Airwolf.
So does this mean the Continental adapter is not a recommended add on or just not as recommended as the F & M adapter?
Justin
One of the beauties of the C145/O300 engine by design was it's lack of external oil lines. This was a deliberate design in order to avoid the problems of other engine mfr's engine failures when their external lines failed. Lycoming's external aluminum lines were notorious and flexible hoses had life limits which were often exceeded. External oil lines and fittings can fail and that is the major drawback of designs such as the Air Wolf.
But I'd rather have filtered oil than not and increase scrutiny during inspections.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention. An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
I had a Cessna oil filter adapter that worked well for years. It screwed into the accessory case as does the F&M filter, but was a single piece and was held in place by a large jam nut. As such it only required one large copper crush gasket. It was not as prone to loosening when changing the element as is the F&M. I changed to the F&M in 2006 when I overhauled my engine, but for the life of me now I cannot remember why.
Miles
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
I had a Continental filter adapter on my 210. It was a troublesome POS that wouldn't stay torqued, and ended up costing me $800 to replace when a bunch of the threads were found to be broken. There's a recurring AD to check the torque but it didn't help.
The TCM adaptor stressed the fine threads of the accy case and an AD note applied to it for re-torquing and another AD note regarding the By-pass valve and which filter should actually be utilized. (That second wasn't a big deal as long as you used the correct filter...but the early documentation wasn't clear and some mechanics got it wrong.)
I'd choose the Air Wolf over the TCM.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention. An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Aryana wrote:I had one of those too Miles, brand new in box. I sold it on eBay for $500 because it didn't include the 170 in the approved model list. I should have kept it and got a field approval which would have probably been pretty easy.
I installed mine as part of my overhaul in 1990. I'd have to go back and check the books to see for sure what the approval process was. My recollection that is was just a logbook entry as a "kit" from Cessna. I still have it...
Miles
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
I am presently in a "phone tag" relay with the FM Enterprises guy and hopefully we'll connect and have good news to share shortly on that product.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention. An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
gahorn wrote:I am presently in a "phone tag" relay with the FM Enterprises guy and hopefully we'll connect and have good news to share shortly on that product.
Any luck with this George? I'm looking for a gasket kit and can't find one anywhere. Frustrating...
gahorn wrote:I am presently in a "phone tag" relay with the FM Enterprises guy and hopefully we'll connect and have good news to share shortly on that product.
Any luck with this George? I'm looking for a gasket kit and can't find one anywhere. Frustrating...
Disappointingly... No. I've made another inquiry on behalf of the Assoc'n.
The implication last conversation was that a new owner of the company's product was forthcoming, and FM was unwilling to divulge any further info.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention. An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
I was able to order 2 gasket kits from FM today (5/20/15). Contacted the # on their website, 806-231-8218. I'm not sure who I talked to but, he seemed eager and knowledgeable and has my order in the works. After all my research, I was worried about this. Cost was $15 per kit + shipping, should ship out Monday or Tuesday
At least he's making attempts to return the calls.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention. An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
I called the 800 number on the FM website and got the good folks at Aero Accessories. The guy I talked to was familiar with the crush washer but had no idea about the fiber gasket. He told me I was the third call today looking for this. Apparently this company does manufacturing for Tempest who bought FM. He said they are taking orders and getting contact info for now. They should have things ready by September and will get back to those looking for parts.